<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>In a message dated 1/13/02 1:56:48 PM Eastern Standard Time, matti@devo.com writes:
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<BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">take a listen to some nitzer ebb. that's all MIDI, and it's got that
<BR>nitzer ebb quality that you just _know_ it's nitzer ebb one iteration of
<BR>the bassline in. and yes, it is very mechanical.
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<BR>That's true, Nitzer Ebb has a recognizable sound because of the sounds and beat structures they use. The same could be said for KMFDM, Front 242, Skinny Puppy, Frontline Assembly, or Velvet Acid Christ, to varying degrees. Industrial isn't all that dependent on the performer's touch usually, since much of it is loops and samples. I can pick out a KMFDM track from listening to Gunter Schulz's guitar parts, but that's more due to the type of guitar sound he uses (ie: what guitar and amp he's using and what effects it's going through) than to the way he hits notes, besides the high level of precision he does it with. Something like jazz is much more dependent on the nuances of how the notes are played.
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<BR>Digital Hardcore has a recognizable sound as well, but it's also from the sounds used rather than how each note is actually played...usually none of it comes from a live keyboard player anyhow, and it might be stretching it to say that digital hardcore even *has* notes under most circumstances. Take a hardcore beat, add crash cymbals and funky drummer or amen breaks, distort it all, maybe add a few samples from Manga anime films, and you've got the sound to some extent...without any performer's touch being involved, besides on the sampled breaks.
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