[sdiy] UK VAT (was Re: Breaking news: synthCube to acquire Small Bear)

Mike Bryant mbryant at futurehorizons.com
Mon Jan 10 21:22:33 CET 2022

It's the same EU directive so nothing to do with Brexit.  It was in motion long before 2020 and just happened to coincide.  The other EU countries are slowly introducing the same rules as per the directive.  The problem has more been that the UK was prohibited from joining the OSS scheme because of Brexit so had to do its own thing.  So you need one registration for the UK and one for the EU.

I know some Chinese suppliers have just given up dealing with the UK and Europe because of it, notably my mid-range ADC/DAC supplier.

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Wiltshire [mailto:tom at electricdruid.net] 
Sent: 10 January 2022 20:15
To: Mike Bryant
Cc: Tom Bugs; synth-diy at synth-diy.org
Subject: UK VAT (was Re: [sdiy] Breaking news: synthCube to acquire Small Bear)

That hasn't been my experience. I've been sending stuff to the UK for a year since Brexit, and so far, no-one has reported either being hit by VAT charges or things disappearing. It looks to me like UK customs are waving stuff through to prevent accusations of problems at the border due to Brexit. There's a government in charge who really wants this to work, and wants it to be seen to be working.

Ultimately, I'm sure Electric Druid will have to register for UK VAT and do the required hoop-jumping to send parcels to the UK, but I'm holding out as long as I can, since it's a pain in the ass and another overhead I can well do without. Other International orders simply charge VAT at the frontier if required - the UK can do the same. My opinion is that the reluctance to do this stems from the fact that it makes it obvious that this is a cost applied by the UK government and therefore not something they can blame on Europe.

> On 10 Jan 2022, at 20:02, Mike Bryant <mbryant at futurehorizons.com> wrote:
> Was that before the latest regulations ?    They can't even send small quantities of stuff to the UK or I think most of the EU now unless they've registered for VAT.  If it's under £175 (?) and the VAT isn't paid in advance it just gets binned at customs.

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