[sdiy] Looking for a specific sample-player/expander IC/module

Tom Bugs admin at bugbrand.co.uk
Mon Jan 10 12:10:29 CET 2022


I'm just glad that no-one has said, in reference to D:Ream chips, that 
things can only get better 😕

On 10/01/2022 10:46, Roman Sowa wrote:
> And here's a photo of the starter kit.
> I couldn't help it not taking a photo now, it's been laying in a box 
> for all those years
> http://www.synthdiy.eu/files/DSC_6197.JPG
>
> It still breaks my heart looking at it, because I never carried on 
> with it and not finished the man's work...
>
> Roman
>
> W dniu 2022-01-10 o 11:10, Roman Sowa pisze:
>> As someone who actually held that mysterious DREAM chips in hands, 
>> let me tell you a little story.
>> Back in the 90's together with a friend we were trying to make 
>> virtual pipe organ using those DREAM rompler chips. They had all it 
>> takes, easy to use, everything was just swell. But DREAM team is at 
>> the top skill level of customer avoidance. My friend had to buy 
>> development platform for some $3K, which was enormous amount of money 
>> for us here back then. He also managed to buy something like smaller 
>> starter kit, I can't remember the details anymore. Then they started 
>> to talk to him. He got datasheets, programing manuals, and the chips 
>> themselves, just a few samples, but it was huge victory. He got to 
>> the point when he was making his own baords with DREAM chip soldered.
>> And then he died.
>>
>> I still have most of his stuff, but the development platform stayed 
>> with his family (PC with Dream software and huge card with Dream chips)
>>
>> I also tried to get other Dream chips, there used to be General MIDI 
>> chip available for some time, basicaly entire SoundCanvas synth in a 
>> chip. Just add DAC and MIDI jack. I got one as a sample. When I tried 
>> to buy them, local authorized distributor told me Atmel will not even 
>> talk to them about this.
>>
>> Roman
>>
>>
>> W dniu 2022-01-08 o 19:34, Blender via Synth-diy pisze:
>>> thanks everybody, OF COURSE i finally found it myself 5 minutes 
>>> after sending this email out... its DREAMs SAM chips from france. I 
>>> also finally found some old emails i tried sending them, without any 
>>> response. and it still is really hard to find any kind of 
>>> information or even shops for these chips, eve though i am pretty 
>>> sure they are being used in quite a lot of commercial products. 
>>> looks like ATMEL might have bought the company in the meantime? or 
>>> at least they also offer similar series of SAM-named synthesis SOCs. 
>>> i reached out via email (for the third time over 2 years...) to see 
>>> if they respond.
>>>
>>> https://www.dream.fr/devices.html#S5 
>>> <https://www.dream.fr/devices.html#S5>
>>>
>>> but yeah, thanks for your guys input as well, consider this case 
>>> close - /unless/ someon has experience with those chips and is 
>>> willing to share some information
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jan 8, 2022 at 6:02 PM MTG <grant at musictechnologiesgroup.com 
>>> <mailto:grant at musictechnologiesgroup.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     This is NOT the chip you are looking for, but in the interest of 
>>> adding
>>>     this rompler to the mailing list archives I give you an OLD chip:
>>>
>>>     SGS Thomson M114S Digital Sound Generator
>>>     http://elektronikjk.pl/elementy_czynne/IC/M114S.pdf
>>> <http://elektronikjk.pl/elementy_czynne/IC/M114S.pdf>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>     On 1/8/2022 8:46 AM, Blender via Synth-diy wrote:
>>>      > Hello fellow builders,
>>>      >
>>>      > 1-2 years ago i discovered this chip (or was it a pcb 
>>> module?) by a
>>>      > specialized manufacturer that allowed for rather complex sample
>>>      > playback (ie. with multi-sampling, envelopes etc etc) that 
>>> came with
>>>      > quite a big integrated memory (at least 4gb and 8gb options 
>>> iirc).
>>>      > Now, my degrading brain unfortunately forgot the name of the
>>>     company,
>>>      > and i also fail to find anything in my browser histories... 
>>> spent a
>>>      > few hours today trying to google it to no success.
>>>      >
>>>      > i am pretty sure the same or at least a similar chip is used 
>>> in the
>>>      > v3sound expander modules:
>>>      > https://www.v3sound.com/de/d-produkt-sonority-xxl.html
>>> <https://www.v3sound.com/de/d-produkt-sonority-xxl.html>
>>>      >
>>>      > on my search today i came across https://www.vlsi.fi
>>>     <https://www.vlsi.fi> which is similar,
>>>      > but not it. i do think to remember that the company had an 
>>> "f" in
>>>      > their name, maybe "fun" or "cool"? obviously its not coolaudio
>>>     though.
>>>      > pretty sure i was on the (chinese?) OEM manufacturer site at 
>>> some
>>>     point.
>>>      >
>>>      > does anybody have a clue?
>>>      >
>>>      > best,
>>>      > philip
>>>      >
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