[sdiy] Looking for a specific sample-player/expander IC/module

Steve Lenham steve at bendentech.co.uk
Sun Jan 9 13:33:43 CET 2022

You can theoretically buy the Dream ICs and associated development 
boards from distributor Profusion in the UK:


However, none of them can be ordered online (unlike the rest of 
Profusion's offerings) and instead one is invited to contact them 
directly. Perhaps I'm wrong, but this says to me that there are hidden 
criteria that must be met before one will be allowed to buy Dream products.

This plus the fact that, despite being around in some form since at 
least 1990 (the Evolution EVS1, released that year, was based around a 
SAMxxxx IC, and the SAM8905 appears in Barry Klein's Music IC Datasheet 
book), they have a profile lower than a snake's belly, indicates that 
they know very well who they want to deal with, that they are already 
dealing with them and that everyone else can take a hike.

Of course, if your products are good enough then you earn the right to 
do what you please...


Steve L.

On 08/01/2022 18:34, Blender via Synth-diy wrote:
> thanks everybody, OF COURSE i finally found it myself 5 minutes after 
> sending this email out... its DREAMs SAM chips from france. I also 
> finally found some old emails i tried sending them, without any 
> response. and it still is really hard to find any kind of information 
> or even shops for these chips, eve though i am pretty sure they are 
> being used in quite a lot of commercial products. looks like ATMEL 
> might have bought the company in the meantime? or at least they also 
> offer similar series of SAM-named synthesis SOCs. i reached out via 
> email (for the third time over 2 years...) to see if they respond.
> https://www.dream.fr/devices.html#S5
> but yeah, thanks for your guys input as well, consider this case close 
> - /unless/ someon has experience with those chips and is willing to 
> share some information
> On Sat, Jan 8, 2022 at 6:02 PM MTG <grant at musictechnologiesgroup.com> 
> wrote:
>     This is NOT the chip you are looking for, but in the interest of
>     adding
>     this rompler to the mailing list archives I give you an OLD chip:
>     SGS Thomson M114S Digital Sound Generator
>     http://elektronikjk.pl/elementy_czynne/IC/M114S.pdf
>     On 1/8/2022 8:46 AM, Blender via Synth-diy wrote:
>     > Hello fellow builders,
>     >
>     > 1-2 years ago i discovered this chip (or was it a pcb module?) by a
>     > specialized manufacturer that allowed for rather complex sample
>     > playback (ie. with multi-sampling, envelopes etc etc) that came
>     with
>     > quite a big integrated memory (at least 4gb and 8gb options iirc).
>     > Now, my degrading brain unfortunately forgot the name of the
>     company,
>     > and i also fail to find anything in my browser histories... spent a
>     > few hours today trying to google it to no success.
>     >
>     > i am pretty sure the same or at least a similar chip is used in the
>     > v3sound expander modules:
>     > https://www.v3sound.com/de/d-produkt-sonority-xxl.html
>     >
>     > on my search today i came across https://www.vlsi.fi which is
>     similar,
>     > but not it. i do think to remember that the company had an "f" in
>     > their name, maybe "fun" or "cool"? obviously its not coolaudio
>     though.
>     > pretty sure i was on the (chinese?) OEM manufacturer site at
>     some point.
>     >
>     > does anybody have a clue?
>     >
>     > best,
>     > philip
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