# [sdiy] Weaver frequency shifter

Mike Bryant mbryant at futurehorizons.com
Thu Apr 28 09:40:14 CEST 2022

```We all do digital, analogue is just an infinite sum of squarewaves after all  ;-)

On 28 Apr 2022 08:38, David G Dixon via Synth-diy <synth-diy at synth-diy.org> wrote:
Yes.  I don't do digital.

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Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2022 8:01 PM
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At David Dixon:

Was your weaver frequency shifter attempted in the analog domain?

On Wednesday, April 27, 2022, 10:39:48 PM EDT, Eric Brombaugh via Synth-diy <synth-diy at synth-diy.org> wrote:

On 4/27/22 17:41, Brian Willoughby wrote:
> Do these tuner stages at the beginning and end of the Weaver signal chain end up shifting the frequency band of the content?

Yes. The first tuner stage is used to create an analytic signal by doing
a quadrature shift of the center of the audio band, resulting in a
two-sided signal centered on DC. The quadrature LPF removes the unwanted
image that's created in the process.

The tuner at the output shifts the analytic signal back up from DC the
difference between the input shift and output shift is the total shift
you end up hearing.

> Would this help keep all signals within the sample rate? Are these questions moot because of the potentials of under sampling?

This depends on how you plan out the bandwidths and tuner frequencies.
In DSP systems the initial shift is often chosen to be Fs/4 which
simplifies a lot of the math (the quadrature LO becomes a sequence of
[1+j, -1+j, -1-j, 1-j] which is very easy to do). That also allows the
quadrature LPFs to be implemented with half-band filters that can also
simplify the math. Regardless, you have to keep the bandwidths within
that allowed by Nyquist or suffer aliasing when the final real signal is
created.

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