[sdiy] LUMI keys

Phillip Gallo philgallo at gmail.com
Thu Jun 20 04:09:55 CEST 2019

The old Miracle Piano (plugged to your Nintendo or PC) had an ear training
program such a Quincas mentioned.  Fish swimming on the stave and you were
required to play the note corresponding the ledger line or space the fish

A distributor of an  illuminated key clavier makes their case in this


As noted, this form of technology is entry level.   The commercial
illustrates this but also seems to suggest their is continuing advantage
for technique development.
Increased facility for sight read would seem to make following key
illumination, pointless.


On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 5:02 PM Quincas Moreira <quincas at gmail.com> wrote:

> I can imagine an ear training program, where you hear a note and have to
> play it back. If you miss, it lights red, if you are correct it lights
> blue....
> Sent from my iPad
> On Jun 19, 2019, at 1:49 PM, Nathan Trites <nathan at idmclassics.net> wrote:
> Don is spot on about teachers having a number of methods at their disposal
> and using them when appropriate, and the issue of engineers _thinking_
> their gizmo will help people has been proven over and over, but I think
> this also ignores the proper application of assistive technologies - which
> the keyboard is.
> A light up keyboard on it's own is a novelty, and following keys to a song
> 1:1 probably isn't even a good way to build muscle memory, but there are
> definitely a ton of techniques where these tools could be used to actually
> reinforce learning. How about showing a blue G on the screen, light up a G
> key in blue a second later, eventually you might learn what the key is and
> can beat the timer. The next level might replace the blue G with the sound
> of a G note. The effectiveness of the hardware depends on how it's used in
> education, and it may not be appropriate for all learners. There's a good
> deal of neuroscience research on these topics. Kid's learning the "notes"
> to guitar hero songs so they can play by memory is a shallow application of
> this, I'd love to see software that gamifies music education with a reward
> system similar to video games.
> Also highly recommend anyone that's interested in more effective education
> techniques to read about the Universal Design for Learning
> principles/guidelines:
> https://www.kurzweiledu.com/udl-three-principles-p4.html
> http://udlguidelines.cast.org/
> Nathan
> On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 1:53 PM Donald Tillman <don at till.com> wrote:
>> On Jun 19, 2019, at 8:10 AM, Phillip Gallo <philgallo at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Don, i agree with the philosophy of your "rant" (also the bag pipes as a
>> practical case).
>> Isn't there a bit more, though ?
>> The pedagogical tradition includes "play along" - student plays with the
>> teacher.
>> The illuminated key clavier idea would seem a close cousin to the "play
>> along" with Mel Bay 45rpm record that came with my Kay flattop?
>> I can play "Down in the Valley" to this day!
>> Every good teacher knows that, in the craft, you have a large number of
>> approaches at your disposal; demonstrating for the student, critiquing
>> their technique, explaining the theory, guiding the student to discover on
>> their own, hitting them with a stick if they're doing it wrong, etc.  And
>> the best teachers know when to use each approach.
>> Sometimes a "brain dump", sometimes the Socratic Method.
>> Yes, playing along with the student is an excellent teaching technique.
>> And play-along records are a great tool because playing with other
>> musicians is a different set of issues than playing by yourself, especially
>> with regards to timing.  A metronome, also, great tool.
>> But if you're building a gizmo to help teach an instrument... well,
>> there's an enormous tendency to do exactly the wrong thing.  An engineer
>> will often abstract the situation into "problem + technology => solution"
>> and end up building a device that performs the very function that the
>> student most needs to do on their own.
>> That is the case for light up note keyboards, either in 1969, or today.
>>   -- Don
>> --
>> Donald Tillman, Palo Alto, California
>> http://www.till.com
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