[sdiy] LUMI keys

[charlie]

exactly, some of us just want to take a break from the rest of life
and play around with a keyboard and make not sound like a cat half in
a blender after a long day at work.

it just seems like gatekeeping, the easier barrier to entry (and it
always seems like the baseline for gatekeepers viewpoint on the
acceptable technology level is set at whenever that particular person
joined the scene, or got good at it) allows more people to get in and
have some fun, and without trying new ways of looking at things we
might miss, you can never hit if you don't swing?

teach, share, reduce the barrier to entry  but also realise sometimes
people just want to have a laugh, engineers have a habit of having
tunnel vision on who the product is really for, or could be for, which
is why they generally are terrible at products, sometimes they take
things too seriously. be more inclusive, being really good at
something is hard and requires a lot of practice, but its also ok to
be just ok at somethings. i insist that people who want to use a
desktop computer must learn assembly language, for instance.

On Wed, 19 Jun 2019 at 11:21, Chromatest J. Pantsmaker
<chromatest at azburners.org> wrote:
>
> The thing that I think people are overlooking here is that these tools are for the entry-level musician.  A light-up keyboard isn't going to make somebody play like Sergei Rachmaninoff by any means, but it might get a new player over that initial hump at which point they have the basics well enough to pursue the actual art of playing.
>
> On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 10:53 AM Donald Tillman <don at till.com> wrote:
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>> On Jun 19, 2019, at 8:10 AM, Phillip Gallo <philgallo at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>
>> Don, i agree with the philosophy of your "rant" (also the bag pipes as a practical case).
>> Isn't there a bit more, though ?
>>
>> The pedagogical tradition includes "play along" - student plays with the teacher.
>> The illuminated key clavier idea would seem a close cousin to the "play along" with Mel Bay 45rpm record that came with my Kay flattop?
>> I can play "Down in the Valley" to this day!
>>
>>
>>
>> Every good teacher knows that, in the craft, you have a large number of approaches at your disposal; demonstrating for the student, critiquing their technique, explaining the theory, guiding the student to discover on their own, hitting them with a stick if they're doing it wrong, etc.  And the best teachers know when to use each approach.
>>
>> Sometimes a "brain dump", sometimes the Socratic Method.
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>> Yes, playing along with the student is an excellent teaching technique.  And play-along records are a great tool because playing with other musicians is a different set of issues than playing by yourself, especially with regards to timing.  A metronome, also, great tool.
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>> But if you're building a gizmo to help teach an instrument... well, there's an enormous tendency to do exactly the wrong thing.  An engineer will often abstract the situation into "problem + technology => solution" and end up building a device that performs the very function that the student most needs to do on their own.
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>> That is the case for light up note keyboards, either in 1969, or today.
>>
>>   -- Don
>> --
>> Donald Tillman, Palo Alto, California
>> http://www.till.com
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