[sdiy] STM32MP1

sleepy_dog at gmx.de sleepy_dog at gmx.de
Fri Feb 22 02:49:08 CET 2019

Ditto. How is any bare metal processor not "real-time"? Unless you 
integrate a badly made OS into your firmware yourself, it's as real-time 
as it gets. The R4F is only one of the bigger real-timey processors, as 
opposed to microcontroller? Or is there a context where real-time has a 
very specific meaning other than it's not impeded by a jittery scheduler?

That aside,  I find it slightly amusing that the stm32F7 or H7 or 
whichever it was that has an out-of-order pipeline and considerable 
instruction + data cache and lots of single-cycle float OPs that might 
give the first Pentiums a run for their money, is also still considered 
to be a "microcontroller" :D

I wonder how many football stadiums such a thing would fill in 1960's tech.

Am 22.02.2019 um 02:01 schrieb Declare Update:
> Brian, I had never considered that an M4 might not be “real time”. 
> what do you mean by this? I found this 
> https://www.design-reuse.com/articles/26106/cortex-r-versus-cortex-m.html but 
> it didn’t clear it up much.
> Cheers,
> Chris
> Sent from my iPhone
> On Feb 21, 2019, at 6:44 PM, Brian Willoughby <brianw at audiobanshee.com 
> <mailto:brianw at audiobanshee.com>> wrote:
>> Interesting. I wouldn’t call the Cortex-M4 a “real-time” MCU. 
>> Embedded, certainly, but not Real-Time. I think you’d have to look at 
>> the Cortex-R4F for real-time.
>> I’m still (sort of) waiting for the open source community to support 
>> either the TMS320 DSP family or the SHARC DSP family. The Aleph was 
>> Blackfin, but that’s only about half way to SHARC or TMS320 DSP 
>> performance.
>> Brian
>> On Feb 21, 2019, at 12:47 PM, sleepy_dog at gmx.de 
>> <mailto:sleepy_dog at gmx.de> wrote:
>>> may be of interest for some:
>>> There is a discovery board for $ 69,- with this new STMicro 
>>> processor, 512MB RAM, audio codec, SPDIF connectors and other stuff.
>>> The processor has a dual core ARM Cortex A7 @ 650 MHz which can run 
>>> Linux, and one Cortex M4 with FPU @ 209 MHz, LCD TFT controller...
>>> Lots of audio projects shenanigans could be done with that - which 
>>> is probably also true for the raspberry pi family - but having a 
>>> real-time MCU (the M4) also integrated seems nice for some stuff.
>>> https://www.cnx-software.com/2019/02/21/stmicro-stm32mp1-cortex-a7-m4-mpu/
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