[sdiy] Jp-8 head scratcher, solved or....need solvent

Maarten Halmans diy at artefacts.nl
Tue Jan 21 17:09:43 CET 2014


Yes,  I replaced it with a PN4393, pinout is different, pin 1 & 2 are 
reversed(drain/source).

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jack Jackson" <jackdamery at hotmail.co.uk>
To: "Maarten Halmans" <diy at artefacts.nl>; <synth-diy at dropmix.xs4all.nl>
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 5:05 PM
Subject: RE: [sdiy] Jp-8 head scratcher, solved or....need solvent


I take it you mean the NF510 when you say the JFET? What did you replace it 
with?

> From: diy at artefacts.nl
> To: synth-diy at dropmix.xs4all.nl
> Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 16:13:41 +0100
> Subject: [sdiy] Jp-8 head scratcher, solved or....need solvent
>
> Hello all,
>
> a little update for the archives and for everyone who helped me on the
> tuning issues of the Jp-8.
>
> I repaired the jp-8 some time ago. The problems in the 2 oscillators where
> not related to each other, altough.......
> When I looked more precisely at the waveform I found some strange
> oscillating effect just after when the cap was reset by the JFET. I have
> seen problems with FETs in oscillators of a JP-8 but usually this was low
> drain source current extending the reset pulse or leakage of the gate.
> Replaced the FET and retuned the oscillator and the auto tune also tuned 
> it
> spot on.
> The other oscillator had a leaking JFET input of the integrator opamp.
> Replaced it, retuned it and voila, worked out fine.
> My conclusion was: The error of the oscillation has more effect on high
> frequencies and the lower input impedance has more effect on the lower
> frequencies , therefore the autotune miscalculates the values for fine 
> tune
> and scaling. Tuning by hand you can sort of make it work because you also
> have the high frequency compensation.
>
> Now I have an MKS-80 in for repair that makes me think again about the
> problems I had with the JP-8. The MKS-80 had large dc feedthrough of the
> envelopes of the filters in 3 voices. I replaced one filter chip, worked
> fine, replaced the two others with no result. Tried serveral chips but no
> change. Replaced caps on both filters. One solved, the other still
> unchanged. Tried all kind of things with no result. Then I cleaned both
> sides of the board with flux cleaner. Problem gone.
>
> Are the more people having troubles with the Roland flux? There boards are
> always covered with a thick layer of flux and I have never had problems 
> with
> it before or not that I know at least.
>
> Cheers
> Maarten.
>
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