[sdiy] [OT] Analog synths with 2 pole filters
Richie Burnett
rburnett at richieburnett.co.uk
Sat Feb 23 00:38:13 CET 2013
Hi Tom and all,
After a bit of Internet searching I found the Jupiter 6 service notes
detailing the two cascaded SVFs... (31MB download below!)
http://fa.utfs.org/diy/rolandjp6/Roland_Jupiter-6_Service.pdf
The capacitors marked C107 & C108 in the JP6 filter schematic would seem to
provide phase-lead to the feedback from each SVF's lowpass outputs like the
idea we were talking about earlier. Maybe Roland had a similar problem with
their SVFs squealing as you encountered with yours Tom !?
If you load up the JP6 service notes (Top of PDF page 17) it's also worth
looking at the arrangement of back-to-back diodes beneath the second SVF
stage. This arrangement of diodes implements the "anti-clipping" function
that I mentioned to stabilise the self-oscillation amplitude. When the
signal at the output from the first integrator (SVF's BP output) starts
getting a bit on the hot side it begins to forward bias the diodes at its
peaks and troughs. This results in some damping signal being fed back into
the mixing op-amp at the front of the SVF and the resonance decreases. The
normal voltage-controlled damping for the user's resonance control is
applied via the OTA marked 48AB that sits above the SVF circuitry. (Each
OTA in the IR3109 is also *INVERTING* so the SVF schematic looks a bit funny
at first. That's why the voltage-controlled damping signal goes to the
opposite op-amp input to the "level-stabilising" damping signal, and
initially appears to be of the opposite phase! They are actually both of
the same phase, and both invoke damping action because of the inversion in
OTA blocks 46A, 48AB etc.)
This Oberheim SEM schematic also shows a similar arrangement of C18 shunt
capacitor (phase-lead network) in the global feedback path and back-to-back
diodes (D11 & D12) in the damping feedback path to stabilise the SVF
self-oscillation amplitude:
http://www.synthfool.com/docs/Oberheim/sem2sch.pdf
Going back to the Jupiter 6 SVF, the addition of the capacitors C107 and
C108 in the feedback paths will have the side-effect of making the gain from
the non-inverting input of the mixing op-amps turn upwards at
high-frequency! Not good. So, caps C106 and C109 were likely added to
compensate for this HF boost that would otherwise effect the filter's dry
audio input.
Compensating for compensation circuits. Yeah, its definitely classed as
fannying around but if it's good enough for Roland and Oberheim....
-Richie,
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