[sdiy] SSM2164 last time buy.... Leave a feedback at AD..

cheater cheater cheater00 at gmail.com
Wed Feb 6 14:56:37 CET 2013

There are positive and negative aspects to any approach, but I think
we can agree that any industry that is organized will be able to
handle difficult situations such as this better?

On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 12:40 PM, J. Verhoeven <jarno.verhoeven at ziggo.nl> wrote:
> Sorry, but no, the purpose of any company IS to make money, and there's nothing wrong or unethical about this. Governments are not companies.
> Yes, there are rules and regulations, and that's were governments come in and make sure they are enforced.
> Subsidizing milk and cotton production, should stop, IMHO. There are a
> lot of developing countries which are suffering because governments do
> stuff to protect their own uncompetitive production of agricultural
> goods, with subsidising and import tariffs. Not exactly one of the strong points of government intervention, more often than not these types of measures prove to have unforeseen consequences (IE. millions of gallons of biodiesel being shipped from US to EU, not particularly "green").
> But rules and regulations aren't in place to prevent companies from making business decisions, and make money.
> When a company is thriving and makes money, that will benefit ALL stakeholders, not just management. So, employees, and governments also benefit from this (the ratio's are debatable, certainly).
> If there's enough demand for a quad VCA IC, it is likely that a company will step in and make those, perhaps not a company with a business model better suited to higher margin/volumes (ADI)
> , but niche products (THAT) or high volume lower margin (CoolAudio).
> Regards,
> Jarno.
> On 02/06/13, cheater cheater  <cheater00 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 5:44 PM, Dave Manley <dlmanley at sonic.net> wrote:
>> > People forget the primary purpose of a semi company is not to make chips, but to make money.
>> That's a perfectly shortsighted and socially irresponsible way to view
>> things, luckily enough various societies have put control measures in
>> place to stop people who err into your thought-pattern pathology. I
>> mentioned some of them in the previous email.
>> Here are some examples of where various entities recognize the issue
>> in your train of reasoning:
>> - governments build roads
>> - work places set up buses to get their workers to the factory hall
>> - governments build silos to store milk and processors to create
>> butter (= long-term storage of milk) to support the production
>> industry
>> Given the prolific acceptance of the above, I would say few people in
>> charge get to exercise your views.
>> As a company grows large and its products become more and more
>> important to various industries, with the business it brings in it
>> accepts a responsibility. This is recognized in various ways around
>> the world. In dire cases -- even in free-market economies -- the
>> government can step in and take hold of a company that's doing wrong.
>> Example: bank bailouts.
>> It's very simple to come up with a defeated point of view and call
>> everyone as unwise dreamers who are disconnected from the dire, gray
>> reality, David.
>> From my point of view, with the correct organization there can be
>> quite an impact. For one thing, if all small-time synth and studio
>> equipment builders came together and stated their, however meagre,
>> requirements, then it might well add up to very significant numbers,
>> and ADI would likely listen to that.
>> If the socioeconomic impact of killing business is measured, very
>> likely governments are likely to listen to that.
>> Cheers,
>> D.
>> > People also forget or don't know that each and every chip requires support by product and test engineers, QA, marketing, field support, etc.
>> >
>> > AD isn't stupid.  If the SSM parts presented a viable business model for them,  they'd still be making them.
>> >
>> > I wonder if Jameco would be interested in selling the Cool Audio parts.  They've always had a hobbyist feel to there product line.
>> >
>> > -------- Original Message --------
>> >  From: Neil Johnson <neil.johnson97 at ntlworld.com>
>> >  Sent: Tue, Feb 5, 2013 03:02 AM
>> >  To: cheater cheater <cheater00 at gmail.com>
>> >  CC: synth-diy <Synth-diy at dropmix.xs4all.nl>
>> >  Subject: Re: [sdiy] SSM2164 last time buy.... Leave a feedback at AD..
>> >
>> >>cheater cheater wrote:
>> >>> Yes, definitely you should contact your congressman. And if any
>> >>> company outside the US is reading this, you should contact your local
>> >>> chamber of commerce or any other government entity that might be able
>> >>> to influence the decisions of the supplier (ADI).
>> >>
>> >>If you want to pester someone then I reckon you'd have better luck
>> >>pestering national distributors to carry the CoolAudio line.
>> >>
>> >>Neil
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