[sdiy] new list: synth_diy @yahoo

Dave Manley dlmanley at sonic.net
Fri Feb 19 17:23:25 CET 2010


I think he meant: EPIC FAIT!


cheater cheater wrote:
> Who you callin a loset?
>
> 8P
>
> On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 16:50, Harry Bissell <harrybissell at wowway.com> wrote:
>   
>> The s-diy list (as-is) is the best option imho. I just kill-filter those
>> I don't want to hear about.
>>
>> Yahoo groups are a total loset imho...
>>
>> H^) harry
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: cheater cheater <cheater00 at gmail.com>
>> To: John Alex Hvidlykke <john at hvidlykke.dk>
>> Cc: Synth-diy at synth-diy.org
>> Sent: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 09:52:31 -0500 (EST)
>> Subject: Re: [sdiy] new list: synth_diy @yahoo
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 15:19, John Alex Hvidlykke <john at hvidlykke.dk> wrote:
>>     
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> I agree that it would be a pity to abandon ship for one bad behaving troll.
>>> He should go - not us!
>>>
>>> But I *do* have to disagree on the faults and downfalls of Yahoo's groups.
>>> It is all a matter of a few clicks to get things working smoothly and, if
>>> wanted, just the way they are here.
>>>
>>>
>>> This is how it often works:
>>>
>>> 1. Moderation of each message is not needed (though I do use it on some of
>>> my own, less traffic-intensive groups). Each troll or spammer will only get
>>> *one* chance to pollute the athmosphere, before being booted out.
>>>       
>> That's the same way it works now.
>>
>> There is no difference.
>>
>> The fact that Rick is not responding within 5 milliseconds does not
>> mean anything.
>>
>> Jason will have episodes of unresponsiveness too.
>>
>>     
>>> 2. The moderators could choose to let new members start up being moderated.
>>> After a few well-behaved posts, the moderation can be lifted. Rule number
>>> one still applies.
>>>       
>> Same thing we have with pipermail already.
>>
>>     
>>> 3. No moderator should be alone. At leat a handfull of deputees would be
>>> needed for a group of this size. That would also negate the problem of the
>>> owner leaving the group alone.
>>>       
>> This functionality is in pipermail already.
>>
>>     
>>> 4. Advertising is not a problem if you receive the postings in plain text
>>> format mails, just like on this list.
>>>       
>> the pipermail archives don't have ads. The yahoo archives do. Yahoo loses here.
>>
>> So, I don't see any improvement in moving to yahoo.
>>
>> There are multiple downfalls of moving to yahoo though:
>>
>> - lots of people will be lost in the move.
>> - yahoo is borg.
>> - yahoo might do what ever they want with our email addresses.
>> - yahoo might shut down our list and we can't do anything, because
>> legally it's owned by yahoo.
>> - yahoo might be taken over by someone, and could shut down lists
>> altogether. The management of yahoo hasn't been too great the last few
>> years, a takeover is looming.
>> - yahoo are not your friendly moderator. If someone loses control of
>> the list, e.g. by losing a password, the list can end up out of our
>> hands forever. Sure, there are safeguard mechanisms against this, but
>> this option still exists. With pipermail you just need physical access
>> to the server.
>> - yahoo owns our posts. I would rather that yahoo did not own my posts.
>> - who knows what stupid crap yahoo will come up with in the future.
>> pipermail won't change, unless we want it to.
>>
>>
>> D.
>>
>>     
>>>> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
>>>> Fra: synth-diy-bounces at dropmix.xs4all.nl
>>>> [mailto:synth-diy-bounces at dropmix.xs4all.nl]På vegne af Scott
>>>> Gravenhorst
>>>> Sendt: 19. februar 2010 13:18
>>>> Til: Synth-diy at synth-diy.org
>>>> Emne: Re: [sdiy] new list: synth_diy @yahoo
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I will not use Yahoo groups.
>>>>
>>>> I've been on them, the advertising is an eye sore.
>>>>
>>>> Yahoo groups also attract trolls and spammers, so unless each and
>>>> every message
>>>> has to be approved by a moderator, they get in and drop their turds in the
>>>> punchbowl.  And if every message is moderated, it can become a
>>>> reasonably large
>>>> task - which will exhaust the moderator who will eventually relax
>>>> the rules -
>>>> and then the trolls can get in again.
>>>>
>>>> I believe that the best solution is to ignore the troll.
>>>>
>>>> I might consider another list if this were a chronic problem, but
>>>> in reality,
>>>> it is rather rare.
>>>>
>>>> -- ScottG
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